The Power of Repainters In ThinkOrSwim

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What are repainters?
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/answers-to-commonly-asked-questions.6006/#post-57833
Most repainters are utilized incorrectly by new traders.
Repainters are never used for entry.

Repainting Studies Provide Critical Information:
For scalpers and daytraders:
Zigzags, reversals, and the other lowest low-type repainters are the fastest tool for identifying trends.​
The importance of the repainters is that they alert to stocks which enter into a potential reversal zone.​
Scalpers and Reversion Traders successfully trade potential reversals:
By applying price action tools https://usethinkscript.com/threads/price-action-toolbox-for-thinkorswim.10747/ to review the potential reversal identified by the repainter.​
This is an important means to getting in at the beginning of trends.​
Why is getting in at the beginning of trends important?
The greatest momentum / profit can be found toward the beginnings of trend which is why the repainters are crucial.​
Profitable daytraders, will apply repainters to the highest of their three timeframes, to view and verify trend and combine them with a good basic strategy.
But scalpers have a tough road. The micro-trends identified on aggregations of 5min and less can turn out to be just noise and do not pan out.
Experienced scalpers hone their skills to further identify the candlestick patterns that indicate the next bar will likely be higher. Scalpers are only in for a few ticks so don't care if the trend pans out or gets repainted.​
Minimize the whipsaws and double-bottoms by reviewing all three timeframes.​
For Swing Traders,
The repainting future bars are key to the power of their strategies.
Future bars wait for confirmation that the bearish trend is over. A bull trend is established.
At that point, future bars scripts repaint back to where the trend started many bars ago.

Future bars work for swing traders because a well-established trend that started many bars ago on their middle timeframe is key to a good basic swing strategy that is trading strong long-term uptrending stocks.

Here is an example of a future bars indicator by the amazing @mashume:
The Hull Turning Point Indicator: https://usethinkscript.com/threads/...ng-points-and-concavity-2nd-derivatives.1803/

Important: Future bars are not recommended for daytrading or scalping. Given that, they wait until the condition is well-established. Future bars miss part or all of the great momentum start that is key to daytrading/scalping profits.

Future bars work for swingers because while they miss out on that initial price surge. Future bars identify the overall trend which swingers can then ride, over the length of the run, on their long-term charts.
While research shows that Buy & Hold is the most profitable type of stock trading; these type of swing trade strategies come in second; with the most reward and the least risk of all market strategies.
 
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Can you help me to navigate any accurate trend reversal/pivotpoint study with scan that works, I know they repaints however you may have come across best used by many.

Currently I am using the Wolf Waves auto support/resistance , Auto Fib , Auto trend lines, Auto trend reversals which seems accurate in price action however I am not getting promising results scanning any of these , due to all of these are repainting studies , so looking to take your help in finding a scanner for any of these or a pivot point study which most used with a scanner gives good results. Also i liked your above reply with the recommended studies, will check on them and get back with any questions.
 
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Can you help me to navigate any accurate trend reversal/pivotpoint study with scan that works, I know they repaints however you may have come across best used by many.

Waves, zigzags, reversals can be powerful when used correctly.
But they can never be used in scans or to find entry,
read more:
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/the-power-of-repainters-in-thinkorswim.16461

Perhaps you can substitute pivot indicators.
They are not just repainting every high and low.

The repainting of pivot indicators serve an actual purpose. They repaint when support or resistance has been broken through. Then repaint the new support or resistance level.
Here are the top 50 Pivots sorted by popularity:
https://usethinkscript.com/search/1...3&c[nodes][1]=5&c[title_only]=1&o=replies&g=1

The 1st and 4th studies listed in the above link, are Camarilla Pivots. They have quite the cult following.
The 2nd and 3rd are the Mobius Pivots considered a standard.
The 5th study is central range pivots.

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UPDATE:
Sure, if you want me to pick one for you.
Mobius Pivots have the most documentation and user adaptations.
Mobius Pivots:
Chart https://usethinkscript.com/threads/trend-pivot-points-indicator-by-mobius-for-thinkorswim.1631/
Scan & watchlist: https://usethinkscript.com/threads/...obius-for-thinkorswim.1631/page-3#post-116680

Example of how Mobius uses this:
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/...pivots-and-rsi-laguerre-for-thinkorswim.8035/

For VIP: Advance Market Moves (they do not repaint!)
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/getting-started-with-the-advanced-market-moves-2-0.1795/

To determine targets and trading range (non-repainting):
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/vip-trading-range-based-on-fibonacci-averages.17024/
 
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If you are referring to 'real' repainters,
No, unfortunately, they cannot be made to not repaint.
read more:
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/answers-to-commonly-asked-questions.6006/#post-57833

If you are referring to a MTF indicator, yes, your solution will work. But as you can see from reading through the above posts, it is not a great solution.
The real solution, is to make better use of MTF indicators:
https://usethinkscript.com/threads/utilizing-the-power-of-mtf-indicators-in-thinkorswim.16606/

If you are referring to indicators triggering on the current candle. That is not called 'repainting' per se, but yes, it will update with inter-candle activity, until the candle closes.
If you don't want to take your move until after the candle closes, yes, your method will work.
The majority of indicators on this forum, do use the current candle because whether the indicator's trigger happened during the candle formation or after, most members want to jump on it.
Thank You MerryDay! One more question I don't know if it's doable or not. but I am trying to see if the reversal indicator can add multiple ETF symbols and reverse the trend based on all ETFs having to agree with the reversal.
 
Thank You MerryDay! One more question I don't know if it's doable or not. but I am trying to see if the reversal indicator can add multiple ETF symbols and reverse the trend based on all ETFs having to agree with the reversal.
In the past century, investors have tirelessly sought a foolproof method to discern genuine signals from the repainting ones, but without much success.

Reversals, wave, zigzag, and similar indicators typically work by signaling a low point. As the price continues to drop, they erase the previous low and signal a new one. This cycle repeats until the price stabilizes.

Consequently, on a bearish day, numerous false signals tend to appear, irrespective of the number of ETFs you monitor.

However, it's always advisable to put your theories to the test. Open multiple charts of your ETFs and observe if any exhibit patterns that might offer you valuable insights.

Proper use of repainters: https://usethinkscript.com/threads/the-power-of-repainters-in-thinkorswim.16461/#post-130458
 
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