Bollinger Keltner & Momentum only indicator?
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JP782
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Keltner on lower study???
Have you posted the one you created here?
(Off topic were you on/in Boiler Room youtibe chat cpl days ago?)
@JP382, have you looked at the Confirmation Candles? There are several indicators on the first page of that thread. Personally, I use the Consensus Candles (which have bollinger bands and keltner channel factored in) and the MTF MA Cloud. These indicators offer a clean setup and pair nicely with about anything else you may want to add to your charts, such as an additional momentum indicator. Please don't overlook the video on the first page if you want more info regarding use of the indicators.
Best Wishes and Happy Trading!
Best Wishes and Happy Trading!
Tidan
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I don't believe I've posted any of my Bollinger/Keltner/squeeze scripts here.
And yes I often watch Connors live feed in the mornings.
JP782
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EXACTLY!! It kinda matters to see that and whether its over the zero line or not!! The oscillator is quite misleading!
My screen is a mess as I put together this strategy Im working on... Yes guys, I know price action and volume but sometimes that fakes you out thus why Im doing what Im doing and why others use indicators! That said lets jump ahead, is there a way to have an indicator only paint when certain conditions occur?
(My handle is same as here! I dont comment too much bc Im busy working up charts. I watch him for tips on possible runners that dont come up on my scanner and as verification of what I have)
JP782
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Bc you dont know if momentum is over or below zero line.. Ive been using it but have been sitting on my hands many times waiting for it to fire in bc you dont know which way its going to go sometimes (after long consolidation) until after it fires, which also means Ive missed out on some great runs! Throw the momentum line on there, super impose it (you can drag it into same Lower box TTM is in) and make the zeroline visible.
WHLM is my reminder (up until 48/hrs ago after watching one of Carters vids) to wait for it to fire, bc see that black line($8.45) most ppl would put their entry right over that, where some more than likely got filled when price peek-a-booed over. Ive seen some ppl posting vids on YT saying they actually buy when TMM bars are light blue in the squeeze too! Yes, some might wait and put their orders in at 8.51 too, but we're all looking for that bottom of a move. Well in this example those ppl who had entries at 8.46 or lower all got burned at 12:26pm!
Now I went back added the momentum to it and duh its def going down. But you don't know that, living in the moment.
I think the entire TTM oscillator should move up and down over that zeroline, or you do what I and Tidan have done and add the momentum indicator over the TTM.
So original end goal of this thread I started was to create an alert or indicator... to complement the TTM but I guess Ill just work with what I got
WHLM is my reminder (up until 48/hrs ago after watching one of Carters vids) to wait for it to fire, bc see that black line($8.45) most ppl would put their entry right over that, where some more than likely got filled when price peek-a-booed over. Ive seen some ppl posting vids on YT saying they actually buy when TMM bars are light blue in the squeeze too! Yes, some might wait and put their orders in at 8.51 too, but we're all looking for that bottom of a move. Well in this example those ppl who had entries at 8.46 or lower all got burned at 12:26pm!
Now I went back added the momentum to it and duh its def going down. But you don't know that, living in the moment.
I think the entire TTM oscillator should move up and down over that zeroline, or you do what I and Tidan have done and add the momentum indicator over the TTM.
So original end goal of this thread I started was to create an alert or indicator... to complement the TTM but I guess Ill just work with what I got
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Would you mind sharing which momentum indicator you added to it?Bc you dont know if momentum is over or below zero line.. Ive been using it but have been sitting on my hands many times waiting for it to fire in bc you dont know which way its going to go sometimes (after long consolidation) until after it fires, which also means Ive missed out on some great runs! Throw the momentum line on there, super impose it (you can drag it into same Lower box TTM is in) and make the zeroline visible.
WHLM is my reminder (up until 48/hrs ago after watching one of Carters vids) to wait for it to fire, bc see that black line($8.45) most ppl would put their entry right over that, where some more than likely got filled when price peek-a-booed over. Ive seen some ppl posting vids on YT saying they actually buy when TMM bars are light blue in the squeeze too! Yes, some might wait and put their orders in at 8.51 too, but we're all looking for that bottom of a move. Well in this example those ppl who had entries at 8.46 or lower all got burned at 12:26pm!
Now I went back added the momentum to it and duh its def going down. But you don't know that, living in the moment.
I think the entire TTM oscillator should move up and down over that zeroline, or you do what I and Tidan have done and add the momentum indicator over the TTM.
So original end goal of this thread I started was to create an alert or indicator... to complement the TTM but I guess Ill just work with what I got
This is a script I wrote based on RSI- its the best momentum indicator Ive found that shines in short term (day) trading futures, but also useful with day charts. Hint: watch the rsi crossover of the center line and exits of the colored regions. You might try using the ATR TrailStop (10, 1.75) instead of keltner/BB.
Code:
declare lower;
input audioalert = yes;
input length = 3;
input over_Bought = 75;
input over_Sold = 25;
input price = hlc3;
input averageType = AverageType.WILDERS;
input showBreakoutSignals = no;
#Calculate 3-bar RSI
def NetChgAvg = MovingAverage(averageType, price - price[1], length);
def TotChgAvg = MovingAverage(averageType, AbsValue(price - price[1]), length);
def ChgRatio = if TotChgAvg != 0 then NetChgAvg / TotChgAvg else 0;
plot mid = 50;
mid.SetLineWeight(1);
mid.setDefaultColor(createcolor(150,50,0));
plot RSI = 50 * (ChgRatio + 1);
def OverSold = over_Sold;
def OverBought = over_Bought;
#plot UpSignal = if RSI crosses above OverSold then OverSold else Double.NaN;
#plot DownSignal = if RSI crosses below OverBought then OverBought else Double.NaN;
plot UpSignal = if RSI crosses above mid then OverSold else Double.NaN;
plot DownSignal = if RSI crosses below mid then OverBought else Double.NaN;
RSI.SetDefaultColor(Color.GRAY);
UpSignal.SetHiding(!showBreakoutSignals);
DownSignal.SetHiding(!showBreakoutSignals);
UpSignal.SetDefaultColor(Color.blue);
UpSignal.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.ARROW_UP);
upSignal.setLineWeight(3);
DownSignal.SetDefaultColor(Color.dark_red);
downSignal.setLineWeight(3);
DownSignal.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.ARROW_DOWN);
AddCloud(RSI, OverBought, Color.BLUE, Color.LIGHT_GRAY);
AddCloud(OverSold, RSI, Color.DARK_RED, Color.LIGHT_GRAY);
AddCloud(RSI, OverBought, Color.BLUE, Color.LIGHT_GRAY);
AddCloud(OverSold, RSI, Color.dark_RED, Color.LIGHT_GRAY);
#ALERTS
alert(audioalert and rsi crosses overbought, "",alert.bar, sound.ding);
alert(audioalert and rsi crosses oversold, "",alert.bar, sound.ding);
alert(audioalert and rsi crosses mid, "",alert.BAR, sound.chimes);JP782
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TOS factory one, just says "Momentum" and nothing else, and thats per John Carter who came up with the TTM
@ rtry9a Thanks for your code. I use something very similar with 2 ATR's with values 10,3 & 30,9. I find the 10,3 vs 10, 1.75 holds me in trades a little longer, but I do like the 1.75 for shorter trades.
Here is my code that colors the bars.
Ultimate ATR Combo
Here is my code that colors the bars.
Ultimate ATR Combo
Ruby:
# Ultimate ATR Combo
# Investing to Give
declare upper;
input averageType = AverageType.EXPONENTIAL;
# Fast ATR TS
input trailType = {default modified, unmodified};
input ATRPeriod = 10;
input ATRFactor = 3.0;
input firstTrade = {default long, short};
Assert(ATRFactor > 0, "'atr factor' must be positive: " + ATRFactor);
def HiLo = Min(high - low, 1.5 * Average(high - low, ATRPeriod));
def HRef = if low <= high[1]
then high - close[1]
else (high - close[1]) - 0.5 * (low - high[1]);
def LRef = if high >= low[1]
then close[1] - low
else (close[1] - low) - 0.5 * (low[1] - high);
def trueRange;
switch (trailType) {
case modified:
trueRange = Max(HiLo, Max(HRef, LRef));
case unmodified:
trueRange = TrueRange(high, close, low);
}
def loss = ATRFactor * MovingAverage(averageType, trueRange, ATRPeriod);
def state = {default init, long, short};
def trail;
switch (state[1]) {
case init:
if (!IsNaN(loss)) {
switch (firstTrade) {
case long:
state = state.long;
trail = close - loss;
case short:
state = state.short;
trail = close + loss;
}
} else {
state = state.init;
trail = Double.NaN;
}
case long:
if (close > trail[1]) {
state = state.long;
trail = Max(trail[1], close - loss);
} else {
state = state.short;
trail = close + loss;
}
case short:
if (close < trail[1]) {
state = state.short;
trail = Min(trail[1], close + loss);
} else {
state = state.long;
trail = close - loss;
}
}
def BuySignal = Crosses(state == state.long, 0, CrossingDirection.ABOVE);
def SellSignal = Crosses(state == state.short, 0, CrossingDirection.ABOVE);
def Buy_Zone = state == state.long;
def Sell_Zone = state == state.short;
# plot Buy = Buy_Zone[1] == 0 and Buy_Zone;
# plot Sell = Sell_Zone[1] == 0 and Sell_Zone;
plot TrailingStop = trail;
TrailingStop.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.Line);
TrailingStop.DefineColor("Buy", GetColor(5));
TrailingStop.DefineColor("Sell", GetColor(6));
TrailingStop.SetLineWeight(3);
TrailingStop.AssignValueColor(if state == state.long
then TrailingStop.Color("Sell")
else TrailingStop.Color("Buy"));
# Slow ATR TS
input trailType_Slow = {default modified_Slow, unmodified_Slow};
input ATRPeriod_Slow = 30;
input ATRFactor_Slow = 10.0;
input firstTrade_Slow = {default long_Slow, short_Slow};
Assert(ATRFactor_Slow > 0, "'atr factor' must be positive: " + ATRFactor_Slow);
def HiLo_Slow = Min(high - low, 1.5 * Average(high - low, ATRPeriod_Slow));
def HRef_Slow = if low <= high[1]
then high - close[1]
else (high - close[1]) - 0.5 * (low - high[1]);
def LRef_Slow = if high >= low[1]
then close[1] - low
else (close[1] - low) - 0.5 * (low[1] - high);
def trueRange_Slow;
switch (trailType_Slow) {
case modified_Slow:
trueRange_Slow = Max(HiLo_Slow, Max(HRef_Slow, LRef_Slow));
case unmodified_Slow:
trueRange_Slow = TrueRange(high, close, low);
}
def loss_Slow = ATRFactor_Slow * MovingAverage(averageType, trueRange_Slow, ATRPeriod_Slow);
def state_Slow = {default init_Slow, long_Slow, short_Slow};
def trail_Slow;
switch (state_Slow[1]) {
case init_Slow:
if (!IsNaN(loss_Slow)) {
switch (firstTrade_Slow) {
case long_Slow:
state_Slow = state_Slow.long_Slow;
trail_Slow = close - loss_Slow;
case short_Slow:
state_Slow = state_Slow.short_Slow;
trail_Slow = close + loss_Slow;
}
} else {
state_Slow = state_Slow.init_Slow;
trail_Slow = Double.NaN;
}
case long_Slow:
if (close > trail_Slow[1]) {
state_Slow = state_Slow.long_Slow;
trail_Slow = Max(trail_Slow[1], close - loss_Slow);
} else {
state_Slow = state_Slow.short_Slow;
trail_Slow = close + loss_Slow;
}
case short_Slow:
if (close < trail_Slow[1]) {
state_Slow = state_Slow.short_Slow;
trail_Slow = Min(trail_Slow[1], close + loss_Slow);
} else {
state_Slow = state_Slow.long_Slow;
trail_Slow = close - loss_Slow;
}
}
def BuySignal_Slow = Crosses(state_Slow == state_Slow.long_Slow, 0, CrossingDirection.ABOVE);
def SellSignal_Slow = Crosses(state_Slow == state_Slow.short_Slow, 0, CrossingDirection.ABOVE);
def Buy_Zone_Slow = state_Slow == state_Slow.long_Slow;
def Sell_Zone_Slow = state_Slow == state_Slow.short_Slow;
plot TrailingStop_Slow = trail_Slow;
TrailingStop_Slow.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.Line);
TrailingStop_Slow.DefineColor("Buy", GetColor(5));
TrailingStop_Slow.DefineColor("Sell", GetColor(6));
TrailingStop_Slow.SetLineWeight(3);
TrailingStop_Slow.AssignValueColor(if state_Slow == state_Slow.long_Slow
then TrailingStop_Slow.Color("Sell")
else TrailingStop_Slow.Color("Buy"));
def Buy = Buy_Zone and Buy_Zone_Slow;
def Sell = Sell_Zone and Sell_Zone_Slow;
AssignPriceColor (if Buy then Color.GREEN else if Sell then Color.RED else Color.YELLOW);
# End
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I like it. I use the atrts a little differently in this study. It colors an extended price line that I use to moderate my faster indicators. I did keep a setting option to show the atrts line when desired, but normally keep it hidden. See what you think...
Ruby:
#Plots a Horizontal Line that follows the price value selected
input price = close;
input length = 90;
input ATRPeriod = 10;
input ATRFactor = 1.75;
input showAtrTSLine = no;
def sma = SimpleMovingAvg(price, 1, length);
def averageType = AverageType.WILDERS;
#ATR TrailingStop Stop
input trailType = {default modified, unmodified};
input firstTrade = {default long, short};
#addLabel(yes,"AtrTS="+atrperiod+", "+atrfactor,createcolor(150,100,0));
Assert(ATRFactor > 0, "'atr factor' must be positive: " + ATRFactor);
def HiLo = Min(high - low, 1.5 * Average(high - low, ATRPeriod));
def HRef = if low <= high[1]
then high - close[1]
else (high - close[1]) - 0.5 * (low - high[1]);
def LRef = if high >= low[1]
then close[1] - low
else (close[1] - low) - 0.5 * (low[1] - high);
def trueRange;
switch (trailType) {
case modified:
trueRange = Max(HiLo, Max(HRef, LRef));
case unmodified:
trueRange = TrueRange(high, close, low);
}
def loss = ATRFactor * MovingAverage(averageType, trueRange, ATRPeriod);
def state = {default init, long, short};
def trail;
switch (state[1]) {
case init:
if (!IsNaN(loss)) {
switch (firstTrade) {
case long:
state = state.long;
trail = close - loss;
case short:
state = state.short;
trail = close + loss;
}
} else {
state = state.init;
trail = Double.NaN;
}
case long:
if (close > trail[1]) {
state = state.long;
trail = Max(trail[1], close - loss);
}
else {
state = state.short;
trail = close + loss;
}
case short:
if (close < trail[1]) {
state = state.short;
trail = Min(trail[1], close + loss);
} else {
state = state.long;
trail = close - loss;
}
}
def ts = trail;
plot tsl = if showAtrTSLine then ts else Double.NaN;
tsl.DefineColor("down", CreateColor(200, 0, 0));
tsl.DefineColor("up", CreateColor(0, 00, 100));
tsl.AssignValueColor(if hl2 >= ts then tsl.Color("up") else tsl.Color("down"));#tsl.SetDefaultColor(Color.BLACK);
tsl.SetLineWeight(3);
tsl.setStyle(curve.short_DASH);
#Priceline
rec line = if IsNaN(sma) then line[1] else sma;
plot priceline = if IsNaN(sma) then line else Double.NaN;
priceline.DefineColor("down", CreateColor(200, 0, 0));
priceline.DefineColor("up", CreateColor(0, 00, 75));
priceline.AssignValueColor(if hl2 >= ts then priceline.Color("up") else priceline.Color("down"));
priceline.SetLineWeight(2);
priceline.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.LINE_VS_squares);
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That horizontal line is pretty cool. Thanks for sharing that. What other indicators do you combine with that ?
http://tos.mx/cNO3irL my tos trading chart share link
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Here is another version of TTM Squeeze. The red dots shows when Keltner Channels are inside Bollinger Bands and the histogram looks like MACD. I found it few years ago in the web and being used it since. My preferred settings are 9, 18 and 5 instead of 8, 21, 13. Here is the code. Hope it works for you all. Happy profit taking.
Ruby:
# Percentage Price Oscillator
declare lower;
input EMAShortLength = 8;
input EMALongLength = 21;
input PPOMALength = 13;
input BBDevs = 2.0;
input BBLength = 20.0;
input KCFactor = 1.5;
input KCLength = 20;
def UBBLine = reference BollingerBands(close, 0, BBLength, BBDevs).upper_band;
def UKLine = KeltnerChannels(0, KCFactor, KCLength, close).Upper_Band;
def InSqueeze = UBBLine <= UKLine;
def OutSqueeze = UBBLine > UKLine;
def PPOSigLine = (ExpAverage(close, EMAShortLength) - ExpAverage(close, EMALongLength)) / ExpAverage(close, EMALongLength);
def PPOSigLineMA = ExpAverage(PPOSigLine, PPOMALength);
def PPOMAHist = PPOSigLine - PPOSigLineMA;
def PPOMAHist1 = (PPOMAHist > 0 and PPOMAHist[0] > PPOMAHist[1]);
def PPOMAHist2 = (PPOMAHist > 0 and PPOMAHist[0] <= PPOMAHist[1]);
def PPOMAHist3 = (PPOMAHist <= 0 and PPOMAHist[0] < PPOMAHist[1]);
def PPOMAHist4 = (PPOMAHist <= 0 and PPOMAHist[0] >= PPOMAHist[1]);
plot ShortPPOSigLine = PPOSigLine;
ShortPPOSigLine.SetDefaultColor(GetColor(0));
plot LongPPOSigLine = PPOSigLineMA;
LongPPOSigLine.SetDefaultColor(GetColor(1));
plot PPOHist1 = if PPOMAHist1 then PPOMAHist else Double.NaN;
plot PPOHist2 = if PPOMAHist2 then PPOMAHist else Double.NaN;
plot PPOHist3 = if PPOMAHist3 then PPOMAHist else Double.NaN;
plot PPOHist4 = if PPOMAHist4 then PPOMAHist else Double.NaN;
PPOHist1.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.HISTOGRAM);
PPOHist1.SetDefaultColor(Color.CYAN);
PPOHist1.SetLineWeight(2);
PPOHist2.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.HISTOGRAM);
PPOHist2.SetDefaultColor(Color.BLUE);
PPOHist2.SetLineWeight(2);
PPOHist3.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.HISTOGRAM);
PPOHist3.SetDefaultColor(Color.RED);
PPOHist3.SetLineWeight(2);
PPOHist4.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.HISTOGRAM);
PPOHist4.SetDefaultColor(Color.YELLOW);
PPOHist4.SetLineWeight(2);
plot GrnDot = if OutSqueeze then 0 else Double.NaN;
plot RedDot = if InSqueeze then 0 else Double.NaN;
GrnDot.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.POINTS);
GrnDot.SetStyle(Curve.POINTS);
GrnDot.SetDefaultColor(Color.GREEN);
GrnDot.SetLineWeight(3);
RedDot.SetPaintingStrategy(PaintingStrategy.POINTS);
RedDot.SetStyle(Curve.POINTS);
RedDot.SetDefaultColor(Color.RED);
RedDot.SetLineWeight(3);
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